hello, everyone, i'm eric bolling, with kimberly guilfoyle, andrea tantaros, bob beckle, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is the "the five." >> as we approach memorial day weerk the obama administration is embroiled in a scandal that threatens the lives of the men and women who protect our way of life. our vets are dying while sitting on waiting lists. i spoke to the former pentagon spokesman jd gordan on hannity last night. he explained how guantanamo

heroes regetting better care than our veterans. >> they have got a medical unit of 100 unit, 1.5 to one is the ratio. there are 21 million veterans and of those 21 million veterans in the united states, nine million are receiving care, but if you look at the employees, it's 265,000. that's a 31 to one ratio. >> gordon should know. he's visited git mow more than 30 times and he went on. >> how would you rate the gitmo detainees? the health care they received? >> it's an a. the detainees don't have any kind of waiting list. it's a shame our veterans are not getting that same level of care. >> terrorists getting better treatment than our vets. only in obama's twisted world this would happen.

>> the outrage is coming out of me and filling me with sadness. do you know what the veterans would do to receive the one-tenth of the quality of health care than that the terrorists with getting? we're sitting there going backward for them than our veterans who have made sack faiss from our family. >> kimberly, i can't believe how islamicphobic you are. they should be treated better. they are misunderstood holy men. outside of their own country. they are all victims, meanwhile our troops go out and kill people, but they are just victims of an evil western state. i'm saying this because this

will be the next trick by the media government complex. they are going to portray outrage as partisan and likely racist by tuesday after the holiday. the obama scandal condom will be up and running just like it was the irs, the doj -- the scandal condom is what i call it. just like they did the irs, the koj doj, the atf and the rest of the alphabet. it comes out. it's i am pen he trabl, and there's nothing you can do about it. >> jd points out that the ratio is 1.5-1 for the gitmo and the vets 1,000 to one for basic services. >> not just basic service, we supply them with access to pornography, new soccer field. they have it really well. i think most americans have it

better than our veterans. another issue as immigration starts to creep into washington, d.c., you are going to hear people start to get outraged about the fact that illegal al lee ens have getting treatment than our veterans. everybody gets better treatment than our veterans. this was proved yesterday. a bill passed the how that -- the house that would allow the va to clean house, fire anybody they wanted to. locked in the senate by bernie sanders. he blocked it and when he was told about this va scandal people are dying, people die every day. >> bob, you've been very good. you've been 4 minutes 20 seconds into the show. >> it was so ludicrous -- i'm still getting over the condom

analogy. >> scandal can dom as opposed to a big condom. >> no, no -- >> i'm not avoiding the issue. it doesn't make any sense for this guy to compare guantanamo with the veterans administration. guantanamo is a military base. it covers everybody on that base, so there's a lot more people down there than just the prisoners. it's not that obama is personally thinking he's better to take care -- do you really believe that snl do you believe that this guy wakes up at night and says, you know, let me think, i think i'm going to treat the guantanamo prisoners better medically than we do our veterans? that's a good idea. >> bob, he's always worried about the perception that he would be seen as intolerant of a different culture and i think that informs his decisions. this is an intended --

unintended consequence of a pc administration. >> the guantanamo prisoner has any problem, they get seen immediately. oliver north, a war hero, says being treated at the va almost killed him. >> had it not been for the fox medical plan i might be dead right now? when i was examinationed with cancer caused by agent orange and the va recognizes that, the va told me to come back in about six months. my wife thoughtfully said let's get another opinion. a biopsy was done and urgency was given to the treatment of cancer and i'm alive today to tell you if i hadn't had the fox medical plan, i might not be here. >> let me get, bobby. isolated. >> i would say it's not only isolated but also the idea that somehow in the va, olie went in there and they did a diagnosis,

come back in six months, are you kidding me? we're picking out the most extreme stories. it's easy to do. >> you are saying what he says is untrue? >> no. i'm saying that i'm fwhrad he got a second opinion. the idea that somehow this is the rule rather than the exception is just ridiculous. >> the va is not news. the news is the list which was an attempt to pad and bolster careers and bonuses. who pushed the list? that needs to be on a t-shirt and people need to wear it. who pushed the list? >> lists are just a part of government-run health care. i don't think this is a scandal. i've said this over and over. this is just government-run health care and this is why actually i think this maybe this scandal condom is thinner than the others and will break because this undermines

president obama on his signature issue, and that is health care. he's told us for the first how many years of his presidency that government, intervening in health care like obamacare is the answer and it's falling flat on its face. >> i was scared about the thought of a breaking condom. >> kg. >> bob is trying to dance around to avoid the issue. this is what's happening. >> so lists, right, greg and andrea point out, oliver north, are we not talking about rationing health care. >> the only thing they didn't put a war hero at the top of the list. is that the only thing you can say is that they treat him like everybody else? this is bad. my point is they should all be treated with proper medical care

and attention with the sense of urgency -- >> my belief that when oliver north went to the va, it was a sense of urgency, they did the best they could -- >> that's the best they could do. if someone who goes to a va hospital doesn't have the option to get second and third and fourth opinions. they have to go to the va sanctioned doctors, drugs, and waiting lists, and it's much like the medicaid system, when you bring in the independent board, you are going to have even more rationing. that's why obamacare is going to end up much like the va especially with all the people signing up. >> if they have their way and you have your way at some point down the road, single pair system, big old va. >> i would love a single payer system. i can't mention a certain word we've been talking about, so i won't do it. i didn't get my point out. we don't want to talk about those things anymore.

>> well, andrea raised it, not me. >> greg brought it up. >> oh, greg did. >> let's move on -- >> she's yelling at me in my year. >> is she telling you not to say condom anymore? >> they didn't tell you? >> no. >> that is so unfair. >> and i have to take the hit for it. take the listen to the man at the center of the scandal yesterday. eric shinseki members of the jury to vets i take any allegations about patient safety or employee misconduct very seriously. if any allegations under review have substantiated we will act as we approach our observe answer of memorial day and its special significance to our nation, va is redoubling its efforts with integrity and compassion to earn your trust. what does that mean?

>> twice as bad? >> they only worked half as hard address before. and now you can double it and you are doing just the bare minimum. >> pay double our money to do even less with it. that's like an emotional platted -- plat i tud doesn't mean anything. >> whoever came policy to having the most on time visits, and therefore you get a bonus, that was a stupid decision because it leads itself to exactly this kind of situation. this should be no bonuses for performance in a veterans hospital or any hospital. >> think about it, shinseki, if you look at back of all these problems and scandals from rice and sebelius and hillary, no matter how bad anybody is, they are never forced to leave and i realize it's because of all of these academic who come from a college teachers lounch. this is the first tenured

administration. they believe they have tenure and there's nothing they can do to get fired. now, bob -- >> exactly right. >> your point. whoever pushed this idea of lists and making sure that you get bonuses for short waiting lists or no waiting lists, cbs has a -- an email from one of the administrators of the va hospital telling people, it may have been a different one of a high level administrator don't put anyone's name on the list to make the list look shorter. >> that person should be fired. >> all right. good idea. >> one of me. >> russian rabl rouser, vladimir putin tore into president obama accusing him of meddling into ukraine. >> who is he to judge? if he wants to judge people, why don't he get a job in court somewhere. >> that's not all he had to say about the president and his administration. you'll hear the rest coming up. &

well, if you mentioned president obama or the united states to vladimir putin these days, he doesn't have a whole lot of good things to say. he put on quite a show in russia today when he was interviewed by a u.s. reporter. here was his response when asked about the president's comments on his role in stoking up the conflict in ukraine. >> president obama has accused you as you know of untruths when it comes to supporting some of the separatist groups in -- >> who is he to judge? who is he to judge seriously? if he wants to judge people, why don't he get a job in court

somewhere? his point of view and i have my point of view when it comes to certain things, you know. >> we've got two more to play for you. let's go around the table on that one. he suggests that obama go find a new line of work. like be a judge. they couldn't find a man? >> in russia, humor is made of wood. i can say that because i'm married to a russian. vladimir putin's legacy will always be a single-minded attempt to restore russia has a world power. >> he's doing it. >> that's my point. obama's legacy on the world stage is the opposite, to pull back, to shrink, to retreat. they are both deeply flawed. you can see who is winning. right now, vladimir putin is running a country. he's not comforting athletes and professors. obama is running an advice column. >> first of all, russia will

never be a power again. they got nuclear weapons, that's it. they pull back from the borders of ukraine. >> what are you talking about? >> he's only 5' 6", they put him on a pillow to be able -- >> watch it, bob. i'm slightly over 5' 6". >> he scored six goals in a hockey ge the other day. >> they produce 9 million barrel of oil every day. >> vladimir putin in his desire to become a regional power, maybe not as determined as the chinese, but he decided to partner with the chinese, eric, and do a $70 billion infrastructure project which would take all this siberian oil and sell it to the chinese. >> here's exactly what it means. china for the last 15 years or so has gone out and purchased all these assets, oil and gas assets around the world. for china to now buy this through the major deal with the

russians. forget russia. if they ever decide to be angry and, you know, start hating us, we're in big trouble. >> the country as big as china, no dinosaurs die there, why don't they have oil? >> they have coal. >> at the same time the president back here at home won't agree to go along with the keystone pipeline. the russians are partnering with the chiens, what are we doing, the opposite? >> i've long respected the chinese. i could imagine the chinese premier would come to the white house, we're going to get into this with the russians, and they are going to go in there and take the siberian oil fields. >> they don't have to do it. they are buying it.

>> here's the deal. this is like this one big international dodge ballgame, the u.s. gets smashed in the face to the point it's embarrassing. i'm so ashame of this whole situation, because we've been regularly and routinely mocked by vladimir putin and every time he shows this disdane for the united states, his poll numbers go up. they see that leadership. they are going to keep pushing it because there's no pushback. >> he was asked about the reset button and he said this, and why he thinks that it fell apart. >> 2009, we were all very excited to see the reset in relations with the united states. today, that recess lies in tatters, what went wrong. >> well, it's the result of

unilateral action. co aligses to justify certain actions. this is not what we do in russia. we believe countries need to degree with certain rules as in accordance with international rules. >> i guess he's not too pleased about those sanctions we put on his country. he was asked if he could envision another reset again. >> is there a road back in the relationship with president obama and this current administration? >> we never did anything to ruin our relationship. our cooperation continues. we're not trying to -- but you can't force people to like you as we say in russia. >> he did nothing to ruin the relationship, and then greg there's elections over the weekend. he basically blamed the west, the united states for what's happening in ukraine. >> you know what we could do, we got to learn from putin. we want to play nice. he has no interest in playing nice. you got to learn from your enemies. he's exploiting our weaknesses. we have to exploit his.

we should be drilling, fracking, exporting. this isn't a cold war. it's a heating war. >> it's really sad, but don't worry because when obama says he's going to help and get involved, he really does. he basically said like millions of cliff bars to ukraine, no weapons, don't worry about that. >> after we got in that ridiculous war in iraq, do you know the iraqis gave their first leases to the oil fields? the chinese and the russians. putin the only thing that he exports that's worth a damn is oil and women. >> isn't he embarrassing the united states? >> we're bars -- barsing ourselves. do you remember when hillary clinton brought over that reset button, we want them to like us to badly and greg is right? are you done? >> no, he's talking about putin's women and he keeps

talking over here. >> we need like two cameras. anyway to make a long story short. putin doesn't give a crap what the world thinks about him. that's what obama does, he wants people to like him. >> it doesn't sound like putin cares. we tell him on an open mike we're going to be flexible. can you guess what happened at a restaurant that doesn't allow guns inside? we'll give you a hint after the break.

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>> so with every issue, both sides pick stories to support their own opinion, but sometimes

it's just too easy. so easy in fact it's like stealing candy from a baby or a store that advertises its gun-free status. a restaurant in north carolina was robbed at gunpoint, two pistol packers assaulted two employees. thankfully no one died. the robbers totally ignored the sign. they saw it as an invitation, suggesting that the only guns there at the restaurant squirt soda. why not make a sign, welcome, the cash register is up front, the safe in back, the combination is shakira's birthday. felons are less likely to rob the armed than the unarmed. the critics could say the heist been far bloodier if the diner had a gun. let's disarm the cops because

those guns could make life messier too. it's nonsense. my advice to the owners going gun free. don't advertise it. it's called sitting duck. i hate duck and lamb as well. >> i love when i get to sit next to you. >> i took an imodieum. and i'm feeling pretty good. you cannot refute this logic. a robber seize two stores, one has a gun-free zone and one doesn't, km is he going to pick? i'll tell you in this case they went through the back door. >> they cased the joint, bob. >> all these robbers are going

around to gun-free stores they go ahead and rob. i find that a little bit of a stretch. why not have gun-free churches or bars or, i mean, not gun-free -- allow bars to have guns all you want. imagine fry friday night at 1:00. -- >> most shootings happen at gun free -- think about how stupid that sign it. gun-free zone, like the robber, okay, i'm not going to bring the gun in there. i would -- gun-for zone. if you are a customer, bring your gun in here. i want you to be there. >> that's an invitation. that's the problem. >> he's got the gun, and someone goes like this. >> why don't you arm seniors in high school? they are allowed to carry guns.

>> why do we have to go to the extreme? let's arm everybody. that's what we're saying. just make a place safer. >> because the left wants to go to the extreme, right. they can place the father and son hunting team, which clearly this isn't, with everybody. that's why nobody can have guns according to the left. everybody's phone calls need to be spied on. we can't spy on the terrorists. we have to spy on greg and his family and as someone who was in the restaurant business, do you think my parents would have ever put a sign up that said no guns here? people always wondered if there was a shotgun in the restaurant and there was a shotgun in the restaurant. >> if i need loose change, i'm going to go to diners with no gun size on them. >> welcome everybody, they can figure out when you are switching out the register and they will do it. >> you sell we'll arm everybody in america. there are more handguns in america than they are people. >> whatever, bob.

we're talking about this particular situation, which is not a good idea take it from a former prosecutor and kop. that's an invitation. the robber says let me do my homework. let me do some prep. they figure out where should i go, who is the vulnerable target? they are going to go with the easiest path which is a place that's a gun-free zone, likely seen in the past. >> arecord ra, colorado. >> let's put up signs, all guns are welcome. >> amen. >> the business can make its own decision, but the business shouldn't whine and complain when it gets robbed. >> what does that help, that sign? >> i don't know, eric. maybe there are some people don't like these guns in their stores. >> you know, there's a hypocrisy to these gun control advocates.

they don't eat or frequent those places. >> starbucks? >> they are never going to be robbed at the four seasons during dinner, but at a barbecue joint in north carolina, probably. it happens. that's life. >> that's a racist at the same time, you know. >> no, it's not. that's what happened, as a barbecue joint. it was not a racist statement. >> things are about to get awkward on "the five." you'll have to stick around to see why.

>> you can't make it up, honestly. we want to talk about awkward moments like that on the five. we've all had some of those right like forgetting someone's name. the folks at buzz feed put

together a great list of awkward things that happen when people greet each other. can you speak, bolling, has that ever happened to you? >> one of them is confused whether you are going to fist bump or handshake. what you need to do is stay consistent, whatever you start with, finish it. venttle even if the other person does the opposite, just stay with your fist bump. >> the mutually undesired hug? what do you about that? >> you mean like the butt out hug, where you sort of pat each other on the back, or the cheek kiss of undetermined number, and you are going on the same side and you almost kiss on the lips. >> that sometimes almost

happens. now we've got the uncertain wave at someone who is not waving at you. did this happen at michelle obama? >> i waved to her, but the lights were really dark in the audience where we were. so she was waving back at me and she saw it was me, and wished she hadn't. >> the unintentional overshot handshake when you are trying to make it and it turns into a wrist shake? >> can i point out, these are horrifying problems that we have in the west? i would like to offer a similar list of awkward moments beset by countries inhabited by radical islamists, for example, getting executed for being gay, getting killed for being christian, being murdered for sex outside of marriage and being beheaded for having a head. >> okay. >> those are the most awkward moments in radical islam. >> brought to you --

>> buzz feed has edited those out. greg, let's stay with you. hugging someone of a vastly different height with uncertain arm placement. >> that has happened to me all my life. i've learned to accept it. i've enjoyed the smell of a belt buckle. >> what about this, bob, the denied vastly different hug that turns into a weird side hug? >> this is eric's watch. it weighs about five pounds. it has mrsa, bed bugs. the chest forward, the chess bump. >> no, no. the hug, like this, where it's trying to frojt hug and it turns into a side hug.

>> that could be fun. the one about kisses, the euro trash people does that. >> we kiss two times on each cheek? >> who does that? >> you and andrea. >> andrea bought me dinner the other night. i want you to know that. and i remembered your name. >> i don't like a man kissing a ghost. i'm ghost-aphobic. >> on -- you know what, eric, i'll introduce yourself first. you have to go up and say my name is eric. that is very good. we ought to go because suzie don't like this no more. the biggest wedding since will and kate. kim and kanye are tieing the

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first of all, let me say that the liberal block is four minutes today and that means i'm moving on us with mr. jefferson. will the third time be the charm for my favorite reality star kim kardashian. her last marriage held up for only 72 days, but she's love another chance with rapper contain -- cainen east. i would like to offer some

advice to the happy couple. i was going to say something. they told me to not to say -- what do you think? everybody happy about this? take it -- run with it. you like kim car dash i can't, right? >> i'll go first. first of all, i would like to apologize to all the viewers who are forced to listen to gossip by kanye and kim. doctors have found it can give you ear cancer. >> brain cancer. >> what do you think? are you a big kim kardashian fan? >> i don't mind her. her butt is bigger than mine. if you look at her pictures when she was young. she's a pretty woman. i'm actually even trying to do the segment, that doesn't even matter because bob is going to blow it up. >> i'll be careful.

>> i hope that they find love. they have a child together. i hope this marriage works and it lasts. that's what i have to say. maybe a third time is the charm. >> maybe. okay. go ahead, now that you've yelled at me too, what do you have to say? some happy nuptial. >> i don't think it's nice to say the kardashian sisters are fat when they are not. >> i'm fat. >> i will admit i'll buy the magazines after the wedding so i can see what everybody was wearing and how they styled their hair and makeup. darn it, i like reality tv and i'm not apologize gs. >> is that her right there? >> yeah. i want to see what they wear. i want to see what her sisters are wearing. >> she's not my idol but -- >> to recognize that she's been a very successful

businessperson. she is paid upwards to $10 to $15 year a -- million a year -- >> because of her licensing -- >> can i get my advice? i would say this -- keen an or whatever des. >> kanye. >> you've got time to get out of it. please get a good prenuptial. >> she has her own money. she's loaded. >> she is? >> i love that it's a surprise for bob. >> now he likes it. >> no, i want to say to everybody out there. i've been yelled at all show long and i don't deserve anyof it. one more thing is up next.

time for one more thing. greg, you go first. >> last night on "red eye" we had a very special sports talk segment in which the panel dbtd the expanded nfl playoffs. we had a panel dominated by women. let's take a look. >> unlike me, you are actually against this. tell me why. >> i'm opposed to it. i should qualify of course i'll

watch the games and that's why they are doing it because people will watch. it's like building the baseball field in iowa. people will come. the fact is you are going to have two teams that most likely aren't that good suddenly in the postseason and that's bad. >> can i get either of you guys a sandwich? >> can you get us a sandwich? >> yeah. >> tonight on "red eye" we're going to discuss whether or not ths a sexist segment. should the women be disciplined for that kind of behavior. i and i missed you dana. hopefully i'll see you next week. >> we talk about this being full of women. you had your one guy talking the whole time. >> all right. >> bob, nothing is lost on you. >> you didn't call anyone

broads. >> good news, america. remember obama's mom jeans, well, michelle helped get rid of them. the president discussed how he discarded those awful jeans today. >> i contributed something i own which was the jacket i wore when i threw out the pitch at the 2009 all-star game. there was also some interest in the jeans i wore that night. but michelle retired those jeans a while back. >> thank god. if they are that close to anna wintour. >> not like the pleated ones. >> if he hadn't thrown the ball like a mom, no one would have noticed the jeans. >> i totally disagree.

he wore those in hawaii before. >> real quick, i'm hosting for the one and only greta van susteren this evaning. >> thank you, well, you know, we are getting very close to memorial day so guess what fox is doing. the fox business channel is going to have a marathon of 16 episodes of war stories on the business channel from 9:00 a.m. till 1:00 in the morning. it shows over 100 hours of military footage of our nation's heroes, the courage and commitment from the country's men and women that have fought and served this country so brazil. bob, stop being a weirdo. i hope you enjoy it. you spend some time. it's time well spent, well deserved to focus on the military and i want to also thank the men and women who have served our country because your big day is coming up on monday

and we -- >> and every memorial day. >> okay. i'm cashin' in tomorrow morning. you made cashin' in the number one show. this week, we've uncovered something that is the smoking gun as to why -- a lot of reasons why the va wait lists are going on, maybe a lot of our vets aren't getting service and health care when they should be. something very interesting. 11:30 tomorrow morning. >> you promote that thing. you've been number one for 83 weeks now. >> no, not every week. we saved a lot of time for you. >> you could actually revisit your previous segment. >> the guy should get a prenup. >> she probably make more money that he does. >> you are being weird now. here it is, a lee yens are almost out there, astron

moleculars told congress. aliens definitely exist -- >> [ senator -- snoring -- >> two scientists said extra at the restal life is almost -- >> do you think they should get free health care? >> they should get health care? >> would you eat an alien if it was delicious? >> he would date one if they wanted to. >> believes in ufos here. . i like the band. >> you are getting a wrap --

>> go ahead and do it. >> go ahead and do it. >> you do it. set your dvr. don't miss us. see you back here on monday for a special memorial dayfifififif" thanks for watching. i'm megyn kelly. and welcome to the special edition of "hannity." last month we did a series on crazy and dangerous things college kids engage in on spring break. we could go coast-to-coast hot spots but we ended up in panama city beach, florida. after it aired residents started packing public meetings telling leaders things have to change. the counsel is considering making 20 different changes to how spring break is handled from closing bars earlier and banning drinking on the beach to requiring businesses to additional security an